Previously, I posted a recording of the 911 call Larry Bishop made, expressing his fear of Ron Pace. Click here to listen to that recording.
Now, we have the recording of the 911 call that Daniel S. Everett made that got Ron Pace arrested. Click here to read that story, or here to listen to this recording.
Now juxtapose that with the court testimony of Daniel S. Everett; click here to listen to that (be warned — there are some vulgarities in this recording).
It seems only Larry Bishop was “in fear of” Ron Pace…everyone else just “wanted him arrested”.
Oh, and that vulgarity? Apparently the deputies didn’t hear it…it’s not in their arrest report, and (unless I’m mistaken) they stated they did not hear it in the court testimony. I will go back and listen, and will correct here if I’m wrong.
I’ll say it again….
Nice work there, Daniel S. Everett.
| Update 15 Dec 09 |
I have been asked “who is at fault” in this whole mess…
First off, let me say that if Larry Bishop truly was in fear of his life, he (as does everyone) has the right to file for a temporary restraining order. If he also was truly concerned for his employees, it would also be understandable for him to seek restraining orders for those employees that were threatened by Mr. Pace.
See, there’s where it breaks down, in my opinion. As Daniel S. Everett stated in court, he was not afraid of Ron Pace, and he did not ask to be a “protected person”. Instead, a list of employees (some of which had never interacted with Mr. Pace) was generated, and granted temporary protection. Was that the right thing to do? I would say no. Hence, the first opportunity to stop this snowball.
The second opportunity came when, on the advice of his lawyer, Mr. Pace did not appear at the initial hearing for the restraining orders. As I stated in this post, both sides had agreed to a continuance…would it have been so egregious to just state so in court, and try to work things out?
Apparently so.
To Woodmen Hills community; Danny Everette V Ronald Pace
Let the facts speak for themselves,
Let’s finally put to rest the facts on this matter and you decide.
FACT; Courtesy of this site Danny knew that Mr. Pace was looking for a bike Danny could have called the El Paso County DA and asked to have the charges dropped Daniel did no such thing.
FACT; It has been over 200 days and even after the recall and RO order case Danny has never made any effort to withdraw his compliant.
FACT; Danny will not have District Legal support on any subsequent matter arising out of this case for damages.
FACT; The arrest record will be open record and is currently open record. These records are known to VA officials who over see my Voc Rehab.
FACT; According to Voc Rehab rules any legal matter can be a disqualifying factor, if it will interfere with the “Gainful Employment” portion of my contract. This arrest and charge are just that.
FACT 1; Danny references his wife as being on the order.
FACT 2; Danny’s wife Linda J is not on the order. This statement was false and misleading.
FACT 3; The officer told me during the arrest that Danny said I was staring at his wife.
FACT 4; I have never met his wife nor have I ever seen his wife.
FACT 5; Danny states that he didn’t want his address listed on the order!
FACT 6; Danny also states that he fears for his wife’s safety because it’s just the two of them.
FACT 7; Danny never filed this case.
FACT 8; I had to post bail 1000.00 and that was Holiday money for my kids.
FACT 9; Danny has personally affected my life and education and me financially.
FACT10; Danny stated under oath that Crystal’s comments about me were a factor.
Questions
#1 Why is Danny using his wife, which I never met?
#2 Why didn’t Larry tell Danny that he doesn’t District legal protection?
#3 Why hasn’t Danny dropped the complaint?
#4 Isn’t Danny aware of the fact that he can be sought on civil reimbursement for my having to defend the case.
#5 Why is Danny not getting it?
#6 Why isn’t Danny and Linda understanding that I can exam them under oath. (question them in court)?
#7 Does Danny understand that I will be seeking damages for the arrest after the case is over?
#8 Hey Danny is Larry and Jan protecting you on this matter?
Ron,
As a resident and a Neighbor. I have a few questions and comments based upon your last post.
I have no idea if the facts you have stated are accurate or not. I have never met you. So I will not try to judge you based on what has transpired.
I guess my first question I have for you is this. Do you really feel the need to punish all of us? your neighbors? I’m sure you understand the cost of proceeding against the District. I also understand you have cost to represent yourself and clear your record. So if Danny dismissed charges against you, would that stop you from making us all pay?
Ron, what are you actually looking for? Do you really want to bankrupt the District? I’m hoping you actually are a reasonable individual and you will rethink and consider all of us. I think the District has many problems. I’m ready to back you or anyone to improve our community. But if your legal actions are to profit personally, shame on you.
Beachbum–
You need to read the court verdict. Then put yourself in Ron’s shoes. If he lost this case he would be destroyed for life. He would have to move, he would not be able to attend school, he would not be able to get employment. He is a disabled vet that would lose all benefits, he could never recoup his court costs, be would be bankrupt. The list goes on and on. It was evident that the district wanted to ruin him, the had every intention of bankrupting Ron. They had no mercy. This was a record for the state of Colorado for restraining orders–the number of restraining orders and the time in court.
The arrest for violating the restraining order is interesting too. I think it was a set up. The story goes like this: Ron’s sons bike was stolen from the rec center. Cheapest bike of 5 available to steal. Ron calls the cops every time he drives around looking for the bike. He spots it at the end of a cul-de-sac. Looks at it, goes home to get his son to identify it. The bike happens to be by Danny’s home. I think the bike was planted. Danny is out to get Ron so he calls the cops and tells them he wants him arrested. Danny states in court he is not afraid of Ron nor considers him a threat.
Another fact that came out of the court case is that the Pizzis lied in court.
Now do you see why it is not water under the bridge? They will not drop the case where Ron was looking for his son’s bike. The district will not pay for his court costs to defend himself, and the district lied in court to attempt to get permanent restraining orders. The district tried to ruin Ron.
Attempts were made to get the district to stop with the restraining orders. They would not. Nor will they acknowledge that they made a mistake with the restraining orders. The anti-Ron thought now is the magistrate made a bad decision. This magistrate rarely undoes restraining orders.
So, Ron should sue. He will win, and it will be for a lot. The people who are at fault are the Pizzis, the DM, Danny, and anyone else on the board that supported the restraining orders. Ron is a victim that is seeking compensation.
Hello to Beachbumsatie,
I enjoyed your posting, however I don’t know who your are so I can address your concerns. I do not hide who I am.
I will address your questions this time but after this unless you say who you are I won’t bother.
#1 You are correct on the first one. You have no idea what I or my family have gone though. I have been trashed back to the stone age and back. My personal life is garbage. my professional like has been severely hampered. My health is altogether another matter.
To answer your second question. You are all getting punished already without knowing it. People of the community who actually tried to talk to me, to listen to me, they over time learned my only interest was to stop what is now crushing us like a bus.
The Danny matter, is Danny’s fault entirely. As stated prior Danny’s actions are what cause you problems. Looking for a son’s stolen bike (120.00) for the third time in a year was getting expensive. What did you expect a father to do just keep buying bikes so some thief can benefit.
I don’t have an answer to your question of “actually looking for”. I can tell you this It’s 4 am and I haven’t slept for the last 8 months my health is awful and my family is in the toilet.
I can tell you this much. I went to great lengths to protect people who were unaware of the doings in this District. Now it’s coming full circle and those who can make a difference must continue to do so.
What I got was nothing short of an public hanging at the hands of some of the very same people who you trusted. The judge was correct in her ruling “VERY CREDITABLE” says it all.
As for your concern of “Profiting” would you be so quick to stop the District from going after me for attorney fees if I lost? I think not.
The “shame” tag you speak of should be directed to the people who attacked my disability in court and in public to provoke a (violent)response. They had the power to stop. Those are cold hard facts.
The Board allowed Larry to bring the action; which to date cost you over 100,000.00. Which brings me to another issue. Why didn’t you call them out for spending your money like this?
What price do you put on attacking a person for shedding light on matters that directly relate to you?
How much do you compensate a rape victim. How much do you give an auto crash person. What is the number you put on a burn victim. I don’t know but I feel like them right now.
I didn’t cause a manager to call me a “Blackmailer” I didn’t stand in front of a crowd and tell everyone “”I don’t give a damn about his disability” I never hit anyone nor have I ever stabbed anyone. Yet I am being portrayed as a “Mentally unstable Individual” by this District.
I defended myself as best I could and I’m sorry if you feel that I am profiting. What profit is gained from having to defend your freedoms from others. You got to vote didn’t you? You’re welcome.
What you should be doing is diverting your attention to the District that could have stopped it at anytime and I mean anytime.
What I’m hearing is sour grapes because I won and I didn’t lie. Would your concern be different if I lost? Would you be saying that sick mental bastard needs to be locked up and throw away the key?
I really can not comprehend some of matters now facing me and my family. I can tell you this. If people Like Hightower were in office we would not be having this conversation.
I may not agree with all of Dave’s approaches but at least I can agree that the root of his intentions are the same as mine; as I think with most residents of Woodmen Hills.
My next question is this Why did you wait so long to comment on his site?
As a Rev once put it (“they are trying to destroy him”)he is right. I just had the right people stand up and say enough is enough.
one of your comments is “I’m hoping you actually are a reasonable individual” Well according to all those against me I’m not.
What you need to do is go to the board meeting and let those who brought you to your decisions and let them explain it. Oh I suppose they will try and tell you the judge was a left winger. I suspect Jan will no doubt deny any wrong doing. Larry will do what Larry does best. In the end ma’am If my calculations are accurate and they usually are. well I leave you in suspense.
Happy Holidays.
I have several people I would take a great deal of pain for those are my friends.
I call them “FRIENDS
Fantastic
Reliable
Intelligent
Endearing
Noble
Dependable
and just plain “SUPER”
Those are my friends.
Ron,
When I signed up to be part of this forum, I didn’t realize your “identity” was only your nickname. Not all blogging sites are the same. So I do apoligize, my name is Christy Pinyerd, I live a few blocks from you.
First of all, I have been involved. I have tried to keep myself informed of District and covenant actions. I have witnessed failed school bonds, failed Metro Districts, and plenty of lawsuits. So I’m not new on the street. I’m just fed up with politics. I’m not just asking you to answer hard questions. I am also asking the District Manager and some of the board members to elaborate on what has transpired and what direction are being taken now. I’m not faulting you for standing up for yourself and your family. I have pretty much read everything and listened to the testimony and 911 calls. But honestly Ron, I believe justice will be served and that is why I have waited to even discuss this issue. I wanted facts, not biased opinions. I am ashamed of how the district has handled this situation. But I cannot say I agree with how you have handled yourself either. I can honestly tell you I have never sued anyone in my life. Have I had the opportunity? Many times. I have experienced every form of harassment. It’s a horrible feeling. What I’m asking you to do is “be the Hero” Can this not be resolved in mediation? Do you really want to make us all pay for this? After this is all done, what then you sell your home and move away? Do you really believe your neighbors will “thank you” for suing them? Every one of us that pays our dues to WHMD will have to pay the price of circus show. Again I appeal to you, reconsider your request, be the Hero.
Thank you ma’am please go read my blog on my site and see what damage mediation has done to me.
Cristy please understand and go read my blog thanks
I wish I could give you better news but if I mention the person’s name I can be charged by the DA for violating a “Life Time Mediation Agreement” After you read the site please by all means I understand your issues I have been at the end of my rope for the last few months and now this mediation matter is going to cost me 7000.00 to fix and go to trial I didn’t want to sign it but the mediator never told either one of us that it was Life time. Mediation in Colorado is binding and now I can’t get my arrest record sealed so there goes my voc rehab I wont be able to get a job after I graduate. Now how’s that for screwed.
So add that to my account.
I was trying to be a hero and got my arse kicked all over the district. I want to take my family out of here and never return.
Now the person involved can have me charged for violating the agreement. Now how’s that for justice.
Mrs. Pinyerd. Who got screwed. “LIFE TIME MEDIATION” Well the good news my health is poor this mess could kill me any day. I now have to deal with the aftermath. thanks but my Hero days are over.
You are such a nice lady but my life is just that my life and having any agreement that can be used against me is not going to happen.
Mrs Pinyerd my intention is not to go to court it is in the hands of the District they can make decisions now. Ask them tomorrow night.
Let me explain its a lawyer’s job to put together numbers prior to court. I hope not to have to go to court.
I now have to take a mortgage to fight this case. how upset should I not get.
Again It was not me who filed those orders. please understand I just very worn down and I haven’t felt this bad since my last heart attack. I’m too old for this stuff but I cannot have my Constitutional rights messed with. thanks Christy. you seem smart please run for the board.
Ron,
I have read your blog as you requested.
I hope you will not allow others to influence your final decision. “They”don’t have to pay back your mortgage. You need to base everything you do upon the law that governs the outcome. Don’t allow your anger and frustration to dictate your fate.
I am still trying to get answers to my questions. I am still trying to gather factual information that will empower me to take actions. Although it might be to late. Receivership might be the only way to get a new start. I will be at the meeting tonight.
I do Thank you for answering my questions.
DrRecall..
I have read everything that has been made available to me via this website and others. I think it’s time we think and act outside the box. For example, Individuals in Filing 11, we have been charged for managing another filing, hey, how about we take just those fee’s alone and at least pay Ron’s Attorney fees that allowed the release of the RO’s. Although we have the right to appeal Ron’s request. Why don’t we try to melt this snowball! I would think a few resignations are in order, immediately as well. I’ve seen a lot of intelligent interaction thanks to those individuals who pay and maintain these websites. So I say, it’s time to get creative, let’s try to resolve this one issue at a time.
Ron has already been “The Hero” by having the stones to stand up to the board instead of selling his house and moving away. He has every right to get as much as he can for his suffering. In fact, I hope he gets a huge amount of money and I hope that cost gets passed on to every single person who lives in the district where this was allowed to happen. If the people who live in this district feel the financial pinch from what the Metro District has done then MAYBE they will realize why there was a recall. And, MAYBE they will realize that they need to get involved to prevent the District from ever doing anything like this again. And, MAYBE they will realize that they really need to get out in May of next year and vote for Metro District Board members that will dedicate themselves to the real work of the district (water, sewer, and I suppose parks & rec) instead of wasting time and money on personal vendettas.
It is wrong to ask Ron not to recoup what he can from this ordeal. He needs to do what he has to in order to deal with the fallout from this whole on going mess which has had a huge impact on him and his family. Shame on YOU beachbumsatie for even suggesting that Ron should bear the financial burden that this mess had brought down on him and not seek recompense.
First off Happy Holidays to all Hillers;
Now I have been asked what damage the case has caused to my Vocational Rehab benefits.
Well from a legal standpoint nothing yet. That is to say if you read the Chapter 31 Entitlement which is on my web site. I will explain here. The term is “Gainful Employment”. Simply meaning this: When you enter the program you must test to the field you choose and than you go though a very through check on who you are. Then after you meet with a counselor and they determine if you are eligable for the program. this process took me from start to finish almost 12 years. My earlier comments on 15 were incorrect.
The reason was my disability changed so I could would have to reapply. After proving to the VA I was a good candidate I made a promise to my counselor that I would not let him down (look bad). So After speaking to several I choose Project Management. Under the circumstances My old records weren’t relevant. the other expunged. The VA knew that and we did a standard back ground check and I had to make a presentation to several companies to see if I could be a candidate. At that time I used the US Dept of Labor Standards and Statistics for the back drop to verify Job opportunities.
I then called I think it was 4 defense contractors and several private companies. I submitted a cover letters, of what it would look like after I graduate to see if I could be a hiring candidate.
The answer was yes to 90% only one defense contractor said no Lockheed Martin.
Now if you pull my background check Its littered with 16 dismissed orders with people who “Live in fear” and from a elderly Man who states I own an UZI and have threatened to us it on him. Attached to that a criminal arrest for driving by Danny,s house looking for a bike.
Now the other side.
The Vocational Rehab program has a time limit on it as some of you know. I have reached it last July 09 So when I entered school I had to be able to continue. Now I have not been kicked out of the program. Then again under the terms “Gainful Employment” coupled with my name in all the papers and all over the internet Would you hire me for job that requires sensitive material or being exposed to secret stuff. Well to answer your question NO. I have contacted 4 bonding (cant use there names) and its them who determine if I can be hired after they check out who I am. Now think about that. Say the owner loves me on the interview and says go for it. As a Project Manager I could be in charge of a site that requires a secret clearance. now since my old issue is over 15 years old I did the research and its considered a bump but not show stopper. (Sigma. KDR). Now the criminal matter is going to take months and after its over and Lisa Baldwin and Dan May chew on my arse and spit out it will be over. I may not be able to reenter the program or I may not be able to get “Gainful Employment”
I called my Counselor and they have not returned my call since November. Well I hope that explains the Vocational matter better.
Now as for Bankrupting me I will tell you that from the start Larry and Jan and Debra were trying to do just that to protect there covenant Kingdom. I maybe broke but I’m not out! I didn’t attend last nights meeting so I could get my wife her present. Normally I have it by September but due to Larry and the District draining my account It had to wait. Now if you were wondering I had promised my mom 66 year lady to give her 2500.00 dollars toward her last car. How 100 times bad was that when she called me during the trial and I couldn’t do it. Well 100 times hard. OR When Danny called the cops under direction of Larry Bishop and my kids Christmas money is in the hands of the EPCSD.
Forget all that. Ya thanks but no thanks.
Now to answer this question Why did you go to mediation and sign if you thought you could win. To answer it in a nutshell. I couldn’t get a public defender nor did I have the money to hire an attorney at the time We can’t get a loan because of the pending litigation and criminal and potential “Liability”. the DA told me it was a deal and it would be over.
Ya right. The deal seemed to benefit me until I learned it was for life. that was never explained nor was it told to me that. Danny could hurt me in the future. He was worried about Dave posting his stuff on the internet so what? It’s all public record anyhow. If you are afraid of the public knowing something about you, stay out of the public eye and DON’T take government job (yes Danny’s job is a government job). Danny can call the DA and drop the charges right now and that would be a start. But the thing I didn’t get from Danny was an I’m sorry. for what he did.
I Did hire an attorney to move forward. Thank god for Visa (its everywhere you want to be)Like Jail. we got a credit increase to cover the cost My wife is on title and that was a big help.
Larry didn’t want Danny Testifying because it will be exposed in court who ordered Danny to call the cops and how “none of the employees were ever told of the order in the first place.” That’s why Danny wanted mediation. Danny told me after Larry told them “Mr. Pace thinks your Over Paid and wants to Cut Your Pay” Talk about fear mongering. No wonder they all hate me. geeze. Everyone who knows it was temporary cut until things starts turning around. I was also known that it was a suggestion and the board had to take it under advisement. There’s nothing wrong with making suggestions. Oh that’s right it Ron doing it. make is so #1.
It was Jan who goes to the District and tells everyone that I’m going to cut their pay and Larry confirms it. I and I alone cannot cut anyone’s salary. It was also said after that they all fear for their jobs.
The Board gave Larry the authority to hire and fire (Off Record). Mr. Baker stated that It wasn’t his Idea to be on the orders. Larry never asked him. Mr. Dalton never wanted to be on them or testify. this also goes for several other who have stated so.
Shawn Underhill never wanted anything to do with them (never testified), Kim Love(never testified) Nichole (Never testified), Mr. Lew (never testified), Stan Dalton (never testified), Lynn Bliss (never testified) wonder why that was? Anyway not all employees wanted to testify.Why my guess is as good as yours. Maybe there conscience got to them. or they didnt want anything to do with it.
I hear someone last night asked me to “drop my suit”…hhhmm let’s think about that I’ve spent thousands of dollars proving my innocence…should I just absorb that? Yes the residents will probably have to pay…but to say the residents are innocent, well…it’s your board, they represent you, and they do your will (or are supposed to). Where is the rush to hold THEM accountable? Let’s see 5 board members, each of them comes up with 300,000.00…oh wait they have immunity, so whatever they do you are left holding the bag. How’s that for a Christmas present from the board.
Happy Holidays to you and yours.