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No, not the novel by Michael Crichton…a timeline of the events leading to the district’s recent adventure in court.

The issue of the district’s involvement in the whole restraining order scenario has obviously raised emotions on both sides of the issue…and given rise to some misunderstandings as well, as evidenced by comment 7 to this post at falconlady.com, as well as many others on both that site and this one.

To try and clarify what happened when, I’ve put together a timeline, pulling from legal bills, court transcripts, and other data. While I make no secret of my opinion of this, I will try to present the facts as bias-free as I can; in those instances where I express opinion, I will do so in green. Also, for those instances where costs are vague (such as multiple items listed against a single charge), I have marked those costs with an asterisk (*). Dates are exact where it is possible to determine, estimated otherwise.

Finally, while it is not normally my habit to publicize email traffic (very easily faked), I will do so here to try and provide some context to the statements and allegations. All email traffic was received by me, so I can attest to that part of it, at least; however, I cannot authenticate the sender of the email, or any part of an email that was forwarded to me. In those instances, I recommend you contact the sender and recipient(s) if you will to confirm the validity of that message.

So, to set the stage: Ron Pace becomes interested in district affairs…and offers help, and asks questions; it appears he is unsatisfied with the answers, so he becomes more direct with his questions. There is also apparently growing discontent with the existing district board (Jennifer Barber, Dave Haehn,  Ted Hanchett, Jan Pizzi, and Bob Sobota) as evidenced by the minutes of the 20 November 2008 district board meeting (click here to read).

2008
Date Incident Source Cost
20 Nov The proximate event (the “most serious incident”) took place on 20 November – the alleged (and discredited) “AK-47” threat
20 Nov The Lawyer™ reviews “defamation”
NOTE: Unclear if this is related to Ron Pace, A.Michael Pizzi, or others; however, as Ron Pace’s “threat” had not yet been “remembered”, and the court finding indicates it was A. Michael Pizzi who people remembered “running to the front of the room, almost attacking Mr. Haehn” (Finding, page 14) I’m listing this event as questionable.

2008-11
Page 3

$192.50
20 Nov The Lawyer™ reviews “defamation” again
NOTE: Unclear if this is related to Ron Pace, A.Michael Pizzi, or others; however, as Ron Pace’s “threat” had not yet been “remembered”, and the court finding indicates it was A. Michael Pizzi who people remembered “running to the front of the room, almost attacking Mr. Haehn” (Finding, page 14) I’m listing this event as questionable.
2008-11
Page 3
$754.50*
Sometime over the next week or so, A. Michael Pizzi ‘remembers’ Ron Pace issuing the AK-47 threat and tells his wife. Jan Pizzi notifies Larry Bishop. (Finding, page 14, line 25). No action is taken by the district.
Mid-Dec Ron Pace meets with Gene Cozzolino and Larry Bishop at the district office. The district testified that Ron Pace was acting “aggressive” and “threatening”; the tape recording of the meeting proves otherwise – found as not credible
Moral of this story: ALWAYS record interaction with the district
Finding
page 19
11 Dec The next event – Ron’s discussion with me at the interviews for the vacant board positions. Ron stated “maybe he should bring a gun to the board meeting” or something like that (since A. Michael Pizzi was seen to do so (Finding, page 16).
Interestingly enough, this was not listed on the Request for Civil Protection Order.
15 Dec The Lawyer™ reviews “trespass and public buildings” in response to Ron Pace’s requests 2008-12
Page 1
$319.00
19 Dec Eugene Cozzolino reports an incident where Ron Pace wanted to look at the vacuum truck – determined as not threatening Finding
page 17
23 Dec Jerry Jacobson reports an incident where Ron Pace “stops and looks at him” – determined as not threatening Finding
page 18
2009
Date Incident Source Cost
05 Jan WHMD receives a check from Ron Pace with the memo “You’re Next” – determined as not threatening Finding
page 19
05 Jan The Lawyer™ reviews “defamation” again

2009-01
Page 4

$464.00*
06 Jan The Lawyer™ drafts a Civil Protection Order Memorandum 2009-01
Page 4
$262.50
08 Jan The Lawyer™ reviews protective order and harassment statutes 2009-01
Page 4
$145.00
09 Jan The Lawyer™ reviews protective order and harassment statutes again 2009-01
Page 4
$58.00
09 Jan The Lawyer™ reviews protective order and harassment statutes again 2009-01
Page 4
$667.00
13 Jan

Ron Pace continues to press the issues; he is then “barred from the district offices” by Larry Bishop.
I am unable to find this decision discussed in open board meetings – no indication he received board approval for this action.
Read the email Larry Bishop sent banning Ron Pace from the district offices

27 Jan Mr. Kalbach reports that Ron Pace’s behavior at the town hall meeting was threatening – determined as not threatening
Listen to the recording of the town hall meeting
Finding
page 21
28 Jan Tony Dicensio reports that Ron Pace makes threatening comments and gestures — found as not credible Finding
page 22
29 Jan The Lawyer™ reviews “Pace restraining order” 2009-02
page 1
$360.00*

29 Jan

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE 2009-02
Page 3
$493.00

30 Jan

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE 2009-02
Page 4
$319.00

03 Feb

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE 2009-02
Page 4
$203.00

06 Feb

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE 2009-02
Page 4
$145.00

10 Feb

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE and “requirements for an injunction” 2009-02
Page 4
$261.00

11 Feb

The Lawyer™ works on MISCELLANEOUS CLAIM-RON PACE 2009-02
Page 4
$1566.00
26 Feb

Janice Pizzi “is adamant of the fact” that Ron Pace threatened “Well, I might as well get rid of us – of all the board members and their spouses” at the district board meeting; no one else hears this, nor is it recorded by one of the numerous tape recorders running – determined as not credible
Listen to the recording of this board meeting

Finding
page 23
09 Mar The Lawyer™ tries to determine if they can stop me from posting recordings of the district meetings on my website 2009-03
page 2
$175.00
10 Mar The Lawyer™ tries again to determine if they can stop me from posting recordings of the district meetings on my website 2009-03
page 2
$350.00
09 Mar The Lawyer™ researches “miscellaneous claims and disputes”
This appears to be the same charge category as other Ron Pace issues, but I cannot confirm
2009-03
page 3
$783.00*
BREAK–no documented events or legal billing
07 May Ron Pace threatens to come down to the district office regardless of any ban Larry Bishop has tried to enact; Larry Bishop calls 911 “in fear for his life” (his exact words)
Listen to the 911 Call
Read the email that caused Larry to make the call
07 May Eddie Avedikian reports that he is threatened by Ron Pace – determined as not credible Finding
page 27
07 May The Lawyer™ reviews emails from Ron Pace and drafts protective order 2009-06
page 1
$292.50
07 May The Lawyer™ continues to draft protective order
5 pages – $128.00/page!
2009-06
page 1
$640.00
08 May The Lawyer™ files the restraining order 2009-06
page 1
$390.00
08 May The Lawyer™ arranges for the El Paso County Sheriff’s office to deliver restraining orders 2009-06
page 4
$583.40
11 May The Lawyer™ does research on the restraining order 2009-06
page 1
$117.50*
11 May The Lawyer™ holds a telephone conference about Ron Pace, etc 2009-06
page 2
$80.00
11 May The Lawyer™ holds a telephone conference with Ron Pace, etc 2009-06
page 2
$97.50
14 May The Lawyer™ works on the Pace restraining order issue 2009-06
page 2
$97.50
18 May The Lawyer™ works on the Pace restraining order issue 2009-06
page 2
$146.25
18 May The Lawyer™ works on the Pace restraining order issue 2009-06
page 2
$470.00
18 May Ron Pace retains Richard Daily, LLC, as counsel; Richard Daily confers with The Lawyer™, they agree on a continuation this document
19 May The Lawyer™ makes a court appearance on the Pace restraining order; in glaring abrogation of the agreement with Ron Pace’s counsel, they move for default judgment

this document
and
2009-06
page 3

$341.25
03 June The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 1
$160.00*
09 June The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 2
$320.00*
10 Jun The Lawyer™ responds to J. Doherty (Ron Pace’s wife) 2009-07
page 2
$117.50
15 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 2
$800.00*
15 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 2
$42.30
17 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 2
$480.00*
25 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 3
$470.00
25 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$253.50
25 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$195.00
25 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$160.00
26 Jun Ron Pace reports the theft of his son’s bicycle to the sheriff’s department, states he will be looking around the neighborhood for it…and drives within 100 yards of Daniel S. Everett’s house. Daniel S. Everett calls the Sheriff. Ron Pace is arrested.
Read this post and this post
Hear the 911 call
In court, Daniel S. Everett states that he wasn’t afraid of Ron Pace, he just wanted him arrested. Daniel S. Everett also testifies that employees were not asked if they felt threatened by Ron Pace; they were added to the protection order by simply asking them if they wanted to be.
Hear Daniel S. Everett’s court testimony
26 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues
Ron Pace’s counsel requests the permanent restraining orders be set aside, and the TROs be reinstated until they can present their case; the district refuses 
Read the Motion to Set Aside

Read the Motion to Deny
2009-07
page 4
$146.25
26 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$80.00
29 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace issues 2009-07
page 4
$320.00*
29 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$146.25
29 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$50.00
30 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$146.25
30 Jun The Lawyer™ works on Ron Pace restraining order issues 2009-07
page 4
$50.00
TOTAL COST THROUGH JUNE 2009 $11,657.65

We haven’t even had a single day in court at this point, other than The Lawyer™ filing the orders, and refusing to honor their agreement.

It’s interesting to note that the district explored filing restraining orders as early as January 6, 2009…but did not file until May 7, 2009.  I am unsure of the reason behind the delay.

Note that the district has decided to not release any more legal bills (see this post)–so pending a judicial review, I cannot provide any more details from the district’s cost/involvement perspective. Ever wonder why – perhaps to prevent this level of scrutiny?

And It Begins Anew

As many of you are aware, the district has decided that legal bills are “protected”, and not subject to Open Records Requests…and of course, I disagree.

So, to test this, I submitted an Open Records Request for legal bills paid by the district (click on the images to zoom):

And, as expected, I was turned down:

Note the reference they used for refusal is CRS 24-72-304(3)(a)(IV):

CRS 24-72-304(3)(a) The custodian shall deny the right of inspection of the following records, unless otherwise provided by law; except that any of the following records, other than letters of reference concerning employment, licensing, or issuance of permits, shall be available to the person in interest under this subsection (3):

(IV) Trade secrets, privileged information, and confidential commercial, financial, geological, or geophysical data, including a social security number unless disclosure of the number is required, permitted, or authorized by state or federal law, furnished by or obtained from any person; (emphasis mine)

Apparently they are hanging their hat on the “privileged information” clause:

Attorney-Client Privilege. Because the Open Records Act specifically authorizes denial of inspection of “privileged information” in Colo. Rev. Stat. § 24-72-204(3)(a)(IV), common law attorney-client and attorney work product privileges are incorporated into the Open Records Act. Hence, communications between attorneys and clients and materials prepared by an attorney in anticipation of litigation are not public records subject to inspection. Denver Post v. University of Colorado, 739 P.2d 874, 880-81 (Colo. App. 1987).

However, there have been many cases decided where legal bills are not protected — the advice is, obviously –  (although the “client” — in this case the board — can waive that)…but not the bills, which detail expenditure of public funds….your money.

For example, see Hunterdon County Policeman’s Benevolent Association Local 188 v. Township of Franklin, 286 N.J. Super. 389, 394, 669 A.2d 299, 302 (App. Div. 1996) (affirming trial court’s holding that billing records are not privileged and are, therefore, accessible under former Right-to-Know law):

In the experience of this court, [attorney billings] will contain a few word description of the general category of the work performed, the number of hours required to perform the work, the date of the performance, and the total cost to the client.” Id. (quoting lower court). In addition, no privilege would attach to the dates on which work occurred, who performed them, or the time spent on those tasks.

Therefore, the Records Custodian violated OPRA because she did not give a specific, legal basis for redacting the records she produced. In addition, assuming that the basis for the redaction is the attorney-client privilege, that privilege does not apply to legal billings unless they reveal client secrets or reveal legal advice or strategy.

See also this article and this article.

Why did I submit this request, knowing that it would be turned down?  Because now I am an “Aggrieved Party”, or whatever the term is…and I have legal standing.  Until they denied me, I had no basis of complaint, and could not seek “redress”

Funny how this works, isn’t it?

So, next comes the Demand Letter…and after that, we let the court decide…and if I read the statute correctly, this time the district cannot claim “governmental immunity”(see this post and this document):

Costs and attorneys’ fees. Attorneys’ fees shall be awarded to a person who has been denied access to public records and who subsequently prevails after applying to a court to have such records made open. CRS §24-72-204(5)

An interesting thing about the Colorado Open Records Act…they are weighted heavily toward the public’s right to know.  You don’t have to have a reason for asking…heck, you don’t even have to be a citizen of  the United States to ask — and except for a very narrow set of exceptions that are codified under statute, they cannot turn you down…and there are penalties for them doing so.

Also, to answer a question on Falconlady.com (Comment #24):  Performance evaluations (and lots of other “personnel record data”) is indeed “public record”..

Personnel files, except applications and performance ratings, are expressly exempted from inspection by Colo. Rev. Stat. § 24-72-204(3)(a)(II).

“Personnel files” as defined by Colo. Rev. Stat. § 24-72-202(4.5) does not include applications of past or current employees, employment agreements, any amount paid or benefit provided incident to termination of employment, performance ratings, final sabbatical reports required under Colo. Rev. Stat. § 23-5-123, or any compensation, including expense allowances and benefits, paid to employees by the state, its agencies, institutions, or political subdivisions. See Freedom Newspapers Inc. v. Tollefson, 961 P.2d 1150 (Colo. App. 1998).

For more information, please see the following sources:

I wonder if The Lawyer™ giving legal advice such as this constitutes malpractice?  It wouldn’t be the first accusation.


I know many of you will be asking “Why are you picking this fight?”

I could argue that we have the right to know.  I could argue that this is yet another example of “selective enforcement”.

However, I am doing it because without having access to district expenditures, there is no accountability or checks on district spending.  We are told we have to “take their word for it”.

I don’t.

Update 7 March 2010

Lots of interest in this…as expected.  So, to answer some questions:

1) Who’s paying for this?

I am.

2) Won’t you just be costing the residents more money?

Depends.

If it goes to court, and the court finds in my favor, yes.  It’s an odd situation, as I would still be paying for part of it myself.

If the court does not find in my favor, no.  I will most likely have to pay the district’s costs.  Why would I risk that?  Because I am tired of this ’secret squirrel’ attitude. It’s our money!

However, it doesn’t have to cost a dime — the board can just vote to rescind their policy.  I will be asking for just that at the next board meeting…anyone want to name odds?

3) What are you trying to prove–or are you just trying to embarrass the district board again, like you always do?

Actually, this time I’m not trying to embarrass anyone…I know, hard to believe :roll:

What I’m trying to do is two-fold:

  1. The district thinks they have the final say on what is “public record” and what is not.  Fact is, they are right – unless someone calls them on it.  Those of you that have been reading this site for a while know that I believe strongly in open government…so this “I’m not going to tell you” arrogance amazes me…and I’m putting my money where my morals are.  The district also tried to assert that infamous Salary Survey was protected as a “work product” … never mind that it was a finished product, published by an outside agency, for which the district expended funds.
  2. The district claims to have spent $41,526.65 on pursuing their restraining orders (see this document, or this one on the district’s website;  I copy everything down from their website now, as things tend to change).  I pointed out in this post that this figure doesn’t pass the “sniff test”.  I have now been provided a copy of Mr. Daily’s billing log, in which he shows a total of 489.4 hours expended on this issue (click on the image to zoom):


    The total cost to the defendant was $121,232.50 (discounted to $76,757.00).  Anyone here truly believe the district only spent $41K?

    • Let’s see…assume the same number of hours;  the total hours is probably much higher, as the district has been pursuing this since December 2008 (as I will show shortly)…however, for the sake of argument, let’s say the number of hours expended are the same.  $41,526.65 / 489.4 hours = approximately $84/hour — wow, who knew The Lawyer™ worked so cheap?
    • But wait!  We also have to add in Larry Bishop’s time in court — he was there all 16 half-days (court time determined by the court ruling), or 8 full days — instead of working district manager issues (who was watching the shop?)  In this post, I showed Larry earning an hourly rate of  $62.50 per hour (assuming 40 hrs/week).  $62.50 per hour x 64 hours = $4,000.00.

    So, my point:  It’s only by having access to the billing statements can we prove or disprove the district’s assertion.  If they are right, I’ll be the first to say so, and will do so right here on this website.

Update 8 March 2010

In tennis, I think the term is….

“Service…”

Carrying on with the Tennis analogy, the ball is in the district’s court now.

Also, Mr. Daily provided me with more detailed billing statements to back up the hours charged; however, the documents I received do not cover all charges, so pending a complete accounting I have removed them from this post.

The detail is the same format The Lawyer™ uses, and gives the same level of detail:

See any “client secrets”, “legal advice”, or “strategy” in there?

I don’t either.

Why So Serious?

I’ve received a few emails recently asking about the tone of this site, such as this one:

Dave – You do your research, I’ll give you that, but is there anything about the district you like? Everything you post seems negative.

A valid question.

First off, I should point out that Woodmen Hills is my chosen neighborhood. I lived in town for two years, and did research on all neighborhoods before settling here. Even given what I know now, I still would have bought here.

We have great amenities, and the district excels at providing water and wastewater service. Every time I have interacted with district employees they have been cheerful and friendly—even when they opposed what I was saying.

Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about some of the board members – if you’ve been reading this site, you know of whom I speak.

If you turn your WayBack machine to when I started this website, I began with a lot of questions in mind…I wanted to understand why things happened they way they did in the district, and why everyone was so worked up about things.

Almost immediately after I started asking questions, the recall effort kicked off. The tone of this board became one of “pro-district” – I even changed the name from woodmenhillsrecall.com to woodmenhillsinfo.com. I still tried to be neutral, refuting false information and spin put out by both sides.

Then came the Chuck Warne case (see this post)…and that concerned me, that the district would resort to such heavy-handed tactics to further their agenda. I asked questions, I suggested ways ahead, I WANTED the board to do what was right…right in my opinion, of course – but then, this is my website.  :)

They didn’t. Not only did they not even TRY to correct things or smooth things out, they continued to assert they had no part in the whole covenant fiasco, despite being proven wrong.

Then came the restraining order issue. I originally approved of it…until I saw the scope of the effort and the phenomenal stretching of facts – and outright lies creative memories (see this post, bullet 7) – the district used to further this. When I learned that the district pressed forward on several occasions when they had the opportunity to resolve things on a more amiable basis, my opinion of how the district was being run soured.

It was then that the district started hiding behind The Lawyer™, refusing to release information, and adopting a siege mentality.

So far as I’ve been able to determine by talking to long-time residents, former employees, and reading district legal filings, this board has done more to restrict transparency, accountability, and resident involvement than any other board in the history of Woodmen Hills.

So, to explain the nature of this website: There are plenty of cheerleading sites available for you to read: falconlady.com, citizens4wh.com, woodmenhills.info, and others I’m sure. There are also a few boards that take a different view: savewoodmenhills.com, woodmenhills.warneent.com.

My website? I try to hold their feet to the fire, and publicize those things that the district would rather not see the light of day. I strive to be fact-based, and give you the documents to back up what I’m saying so you can make your own decisions.

I am decidedly critical of the district, and I make no apologies for that.

I’ll say it again:

  • Take in all perspectives
  • Read everything
  • Don’t take anyone’s word for it
  • DECIDE FOR YOURSELF
http://woodmenhillsinfo.com/2009/05/28/covenants-lawsuit-information/

Update to the “Case of the Smoking….Recorders”

Background:  Jan Pizzi and Debra Wright decreed at the last board meeting that personal recorders will not be allowed on district-owned tables the board meeting tables.  See this post for more details.

I asked the district for clarification, and today received this response.

I guess I can understand the concern…we all know how disruptive running tape recorders can be.

AAIAttIAttIA

[update 24 Feb - shortened the title - used to say "And Another Interesting Answer to the Interesting Answer to the Interesting Answer"]

When we last left this saga, the District had declared “governmental immunity” — they can take you to court, and if you lose, you will pay their court costs.

If you WIN, however, they won’t pay you anything — they will quickly stipulate under state law they don’t have to (see this post and this document).

So, the twist — Since Larry Bishop filed the restraining orders as an individual person, he can be held liable for costs:

4. Indeed, it is plain from the testimony at trial that, although Mr. Bishop was (and is) an employee of Woodmen Hills Metropolitan District, he was the moving force behind the filing of the Complaint in the matter, and that he acted on his own behalf as well as on behalf of the District in filing the Complaint. (source:  This document)

Seems pretty clear, right?  The court thought so, and ordered Larry Bishop to pay defendant’s costs (see this document).

Case closed?

…Not quite.  The district paid…meaning you and I paid again:

Source:  Richard Daily, LLC

If they were going to pay anyway, why did they engage The Lawyer™ (at whatever-hundreds-of-dollars-an-hour THAT cost [hint:  $400/hour for the main guy, less for the minor entities]) to say they won’t?

And the bigger question:  Is this a legal use of district funds?